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SamFisher47
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 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: What would you like to see in a desktop distribution? |
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Pretty much just post here any problems/issues you have had with Ubuntu/openSUSE/Mandriva (or any other desktop user-targed distribution) or any features you think should have been added/modified/updated in the aforementioned distributions.
My issues, for now:
1. Hibernate/Resume/Suspend does not work with some laptops (esp. using Ubuntu)
2. Many codecs not included by default (Ubuntu again, but for valid reasons - free/legality issues, etc.)
3. Bootup quite slow (in general)
4. Menus can be difficult to navigate (openSUSE, too many clicks to open an application!)
5. Java and flash support should be default
So, post what you think!
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master_kernel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: Re: What would you like to see in a desktop distribution? |
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| SamFisher47 wrote: | Pretty much just post here any problems/issues you have had with Ubuntu/openSUSE/Mandriva (or any other desktop user-targed distribution) or any features you think should have been added/modified/updated in the aforementioned distributions.
My issues, for now:
1. Hibernate/Resume/Suspend does not work with some laptops (esp. using Ubuntu)
2. Many codecs not included by default (Ubuntu again, but for valid reasons - free/legality issues, etc.)
3. Bootup quite slow (in general)
4. Menus can be difficult to navigate (openSUSE, too many clicks to open an application!)
5. Java and flash support should be default
So, post what you think! |
About how fast are we aiming for in bootup times?
Also, do we want to consider using bootsplash with the kernel? |
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SamFisher47
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: What would you like to see in a desktop distribution? |
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| master_kernel wrote: |
About how fast are we aiming for in bootup times?
Also, do we want to consider using bootsplash with the kernel? |
Actually, I'm not sure  . Just a bootup time that is comparable with other operating systems (including other distros), and a suspend/resume feature that works 100% of the time 
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Siberian Fox
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Well Windows has the fastest, I would say we should keep it as far under a minute as possible. I would hope for around 30 - 40 seconds. |
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master_kernel
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Siberian Fox wrote: | | Well Windows has the fastest, I would say we should keep it as far under a minute as possible. I would hope for around 30 - 40 seconds. |
On my AMD X2 system I get around 26 seconds to the login screen with the 2.6.23 kernel, but I'm not sure how i686/i586/i386 does. |
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Helmetman
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| In Ubuntu when I run a full-screen game in WINE or Cedega my whole pc freezes |
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SamFisher47
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Helmetman wrote: | | In Ubuntu when I run a full-screen game in WINE or Cedega my whole pc freezes |
Interesting... What game are you running, or is it any full-screen game in general? This doesn't seem to happen to me 
More about fast boot-up times:
| Code: | http://www.improvedsource.com/view.php/Linux-System/3
http://yamz.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/23-second-boot-up-time/ |
Of course, everything depends on hardware configuration etc but I think by disabling services such as Bluetooth or Braille support for users who don't need it (by asking at installation), we should be able to get a 25-second (or below  ) boot-up time!
What do you guys think?
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Helmetman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| The games were America's Army, and Counter-Strike:Source. It also freezes when I switch from fullscreen to windowed. |
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Davmont
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: What would you like to see in a desktop distribution? |
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| master_kernel wrote: |
About how fast are we aiming for in bootup times?
Also, do we want to consider using bootsplash with the kernel? |
i think bootsplash is not going to be supported anymore... you should use splashy instead of it i think
in my opinion bootup time is a priority... my computer uses around 30secs i think (ill use a clock the next time) ... it boots faster than my slooow windows (i have to format it)
things i need on a distro : office suite (openOffice), music Player (amarok in my case; audacious, rythmbox...) codecs and video player : (k)mplayer or vlc... and a packager manager as synaptic or adept-manager...
what kind of packet is the distro going to manage? rpm or .deb???
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SamFisher47
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Siberian Fox
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Well that was an idea, but if it comes down to it, Gnome will have to use Debs, and KDE will use RPMs. |
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SamFisher47
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Siberian Fox
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Gnome is almost founded by debian, and so most of the Gnome products are Debs. KDE however is mainly RPM, but there are more products in RPM format than Debs. You will find that most debs were made specifically for Ubuntu. |
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SamFisher47
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, right, I understand now. Then perhaps (in later releases if it is time-consuming) we can implement the dual package system, so that users of our Gnome distribution can also use/trial the KDE edition without having to re-download or search for their software all over again?
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rustybronco
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Well that would be wifi that works out of the box, tough thing to get a grasp on.
and video cards that communicate improperly with a monitor to select the correct screen resolution? possibly have a select resolution and refresh rate in the origional install (desktop-distro is using 1440x900@75hz is this highest resolution supported?/ would you like to try a different resolution?) |
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